having recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
Somebody elsewhere suggested that a person with a crisis of conscience should volunteer for cart duty. They don't interact with the public just standing there talking to each other.
The rest depends on whether or not you have family still in. A slow fade is the common suggestion but everyone has different circumstances.
with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
Perry,
"JW's pick and choose a lot of things in the bible to prop up their rebellion against God when they deny the blood of the covenant that is expressly FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS."
So do both Liberal and Fundamentalist spiritualty. They simply pick and choose different portions of the Bible.
Liberals ignore the moral depravity of their Bible. American Fundamentalists ignore other scriptures such as Acts 2:45, Matthew 5:5, Matthew 25:33-45 and so forth.
You're all under the same umbrella.
long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
Perry,
"The biblical test for knowing God [as opposed to imagining that we know him] seems to be continued fruit of his presence. The fruit is proof the faith is (was) real."
This "knowing" is all in your brain Perry and nowhere else. We are hardwired for 'spirituality' (as an evolutionary way of bonding ourselves to the tribe). It is a way of trying to understand the world whether it be right or wrong.
Carl Sagan was a wonderful example of atheist spirituality. He reverenced the Universe.
The Dalai Lama is an example of Buddhist spirituality who said that if science were to contradict something that Buddhism taught he would choose the science.
Christianity is basically a submission ritual - also hardwired into our brain - where you get rewarded by submitting yourself to a deity. According to Christian thought it doesn't even matter how moral a person you are. Don't believe in your Jesus you're toast.
this has nothing to do with my facebook endeavors.
when the elders visited us last week, they also discussed my father.
my mother called them about him.
Of course they can disfellowship him and they should. You should consider the option of a separation for your mother and even a court order.
One thing's for sure. He won't change.
this was the reason that our 12 year old son gave us for wanting to be baptized.
my wife and i actually agreed that he should wait a little longer, thank god!
by the time he was 13 he was running wild.
"Now we only have "necessary family business" with her..."
What Giordano said. Why?
long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
long time lurker (2009-ish), first time poster.
first of all, i want to say thank you everyone who contributes to these boards and provokes stimulating conversations and thought processes.
all the opinions and different perspectives are very enlightening.
i have a friend who is still in.
this friend is a partaker, but has serious doubts about the org.
this friend wants to stand up as a man, and wants to call wtbts hq.
No disrespect but...
with all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
a watcher,
"RealWitness, there are less than a handful of real Witnesses here, me being one of them, and the admins are not Witnesses."
And the question that all real Witnesses never answer is, "why are you here where the Watchtower bans you from going to?"
